tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19191002.post9124866650321775772..comments2023-09-21T08:53:42.554+01:00Comments on blethers: Holy snipersChristine McIntoshhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14198224025775398453noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19191002.post-73769887720860897862007-06-03T21:57:00.000+01:002007-06-03T21:57:00.000+01:00That's interesting. I found myself the other day s...That's interesting. I found myself the other day saying a mixture of the old and the new because they now seem equally ensconced in my psyche. And both feel equally valid now, though this was not always the case.Christine McIntoshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14198224025775398453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19191002.post-2849925847936699322007-06-03T21:43:00.000+01:002007-06-03T21:43:00.000+01:00I find that I just can't get myself to say the "co...I find that I just can't get myself to say the "contemporary" version of the Lord's Prayer that appears in the BCP 1979 here in the US. Thanks be to God so far I've only been in parishes where they either say or sing the traditional one.<BR/><BR/>The English of the traditional just sounds so much better than that other version. I might be biased though, since I do like to occasionally read Wycliffe's English translation of the New Testament from 1385.writing_herehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00585405534414269361noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19191002.post-60823484298963090382007-05-15T09:53:00.000+01:002007-05-15T09:53:00.000+01:00I know I'm the most reasonable person in the world...I know I'm the most reasonable person in the world. The fact that no-one else can see that is their problem, not mine!!An Honest Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03737317978687717195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19191002.post-73095971225458266782007-05-15T09:26:00.000+01:002007-05-15T09:26:00.000+01:00Rachel, when I reflected on the Teddy bears in adu...Rachel, when I reflected on the Teddy bears in adult life, I realised that this was happening in my life only five years after the discovery of the horrors of Belsen and other death camps. I've often wondered if the girl in question had been warned by her family to be private about her background.Christine McIntoshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14198224025775398453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19191002.post-44159750185335239712007-05-15T00:16:00.000+01:002007-05-15T00:16:00.000+01:00Hi... found you because I keep tabs on blogs about...Hi... found you because I keep tabs on blogs about the Lord's Prayer. I frequent many spiritual/church/Christian blogs as well, and find there's quite a mix. The snippy, caustic stuff is definitely out there, but I also know a lot of believers who do a fantastic job of showing both love and truth online.<BR/><BR/>"The Teddy Bear's Picnic"--I find that strangely moving. Good for her.<BR/><BR/>Rachel<BR/>author of <A HREF="http://www.littledozen.com/h2h.html" REL="nofollow">Heart to Heart: Meeting With God in the Lord's Prayer</A>Rachel Starr Thomsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05016454083307255764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19191002.post-90913604951253319472007-05-14T15:14:00.000+01:002007-05-14T15:14:00.000+01:00Ruth, you say:"Of course we are also supportive an...Ruth, you say:"Of course we are also supportive and caring to our little flocks and to one another" - and I think therein lie both the problem and a question mark. You're always alone in the workplace, aren't you - so immediate support isn't just next door on a bad day. You have to keep up the smiley compassionate bit to the punters (like me!). And it's surely harder to be a priest these days than when respect came with the collar. (Teaching's a bit like that too, these days) I hope you feel better after the wee rant; I still think we all need to be more careful with each other. And that's a lesson I have to learn too.Christine McIntoshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14198224025775398453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19191002.post-72190656676076587632007-05-14T09:00:00.000+01:002007-05-14T09:00:00.000+01:00I guess the reason we are often 'self-aware, somet...I guess the reason we are often 'self-aware, sometimes outrageous, often critical, and the comments snippy, defensive, brittle, caustic' is because we care so much. We want the church to be 'right', to be inclusive and a place where everyone encounters God. But the reality is often different and some of us are passionate about trying to 'fix' it. Of course we are also supportive and caring to our little flocks and to one another but if we believe something is out of kilter then we owe it to our vows to try and make it better. We get none of the support and training that your education friends get and we are pissed off about that. We want to improve ourselves and our pleas fall on deaf ears. <BR/><BR/>You are right - we are brittle. Brittle from all the knocks, all the failed attempts at making things better, all the pleas falling on deaf ears and a feeling of not being heard. We are all the things you say and more. We don't want to be this way, believe me, but prophets aren't always loved.<BR/><BR/>Wow! Where did that all come from?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19191002.post-8920328347716416042007-05-14T08:46:00.000+01:002007-05-14T08:46:00.000+01:00Your comments about the difference in culture betw...Your comments about the difference in culture between education and the ecclesastical are interesting.<BR/><BR/>For my part, having been involved quite deeply in political life for 5 years until 2006, I found a similar divide. The people I met through politics were much more respectful of one another and a good deal more honest than folk in the church.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com